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President Trump has said he'll use military force against Iran unless its government agrees to

U.S. demands that Tehran shut down its nuclear program and pledges to never again pursue

creating a nuclear weapon.

As I record this this morning, negotiations are underway in Geneva between Iran's

foreign minister and Trump's special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Whitkoff, along with

Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who doesn't have an official position within the

current administration. Are we headed toward a military conflict with Iran? If so, would it be

a limited series of airstrikes on select targets? Would the U.S. attempt regime change,

resulting in a larger war? My guest, David Sanger, can't answer those questions, but he can tell us

how we got to this precipice and what the consequences might be for the U.S. if the president

does use military force. Sanger is a White House and National Security correspondent for the New York

Times. For years, his coverage has included

Iran's nuclear program and U.S. and Israeli attempts to sabotage it. He's also the author of the

book New Cold Wars. Although I'm recording this introduction this morning, we recorded our

interview yesterday morning. We started with a clip of what President Trump said about Iran during his State of the Union

address Tuesday.

They've already developed missiles that can threaten Europe and our bases overseas, and they're

working to build missiles that will soon reach the United States of America.

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