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Consider This from NPR

Is the Trump foreign policy back to the future?

Consider This from NPR

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🗓️ 8 January 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

"Make America great again."

That phrase has been in our political ecosystem for 10 years now.



But it's never been clear what time period in American history President Trump was referencing?

Is it the 1980s? Or maybe the 1950s?

What about further back, say the 1890s?

As we enter the second year of Trump’s second term, is a 19th century presidency emerging? For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at [email protected].

This episode was produced by Tyler Bartlam, with audio engineering from Tiffany Vera Castro. 

It was edited by Courtney Dorning.

Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.




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0:00.0

We will make America great again.

0:04.0

That phrase has been in our political ecosystem for 10 years now, but it's never been

0:09.3

entirely clear what time period in American history President Trump was referencing.

0:14.2

Isn't the 1980s, maybe the 1950s?

0:17.0

What about further back, say the 1890s?

0:20.4

As we entered the second year of Trump's second term,

0:23.1

is a 19th century presidency emerging? There's tariffs.

0:27.3

The president announced goods from every nation we trade with will be subject to import taxes.

0:32.5

Which echoed the Tariff Act of 1890, as Morocco explained on CBS.

0:36.9

The 1890 McKinley tariff raised rates as high as 50%.

0:41.8

In the late 19th century, the railroad industry raked in billions of dollars and cozied

0:46.9

up to political power brokers.

0:48.9

Here is an NBC educational film explaining one of the biggest scandals of the era.

0:52.8

One involved a railroad company called Crady Mobelier, where in 1872, stockholders

0:58.6

cheated their own company out of millions of dollars.

1:02.0

Among the stockholders were members of the United States Congress and Grant's own vice president,

1:07.0

Skyler Colfax.

1:08.4

Now, AI is the billion-dollar industry, and its leaders are donating money and courting favors with the current administration.

1:15.5

Amazon, led by Jeff Bezos, is donating $1 million to Trump's inauguration fund.

1:20.7

Meta, led by Mark Zuckerberg, is also giving a million dollars to the fund.

1:24.8

And OpenAI CEO, Sam Altman, is also making a personal

1:28.8

donation of $1 million. And then there's foreign policy, as laid out here on TEDED. From 1867 to

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