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Hello and welcome to the podcast.

I'm David Rothkoff, your host.

And as you know, once a month we try to sit down

with the smartest, wisest people we know, with political insights.

And that always brings us back to Tara McGowan and Simon Rosenberg.

Hi guys.

Hello David.

Hi David, hi Simon.

You know, we figure throughout this campaign year at least once a month we should check in with you and get your perspectives on where we are of course since the last time we spoke.

Joe Biden and Donald Trump have effectively locked up their party's nomination.

And that seems to me to be big news worthy of commenting upon, but you know, Simon, you may want to kick things off talking about the vice presidential prospects of Aaron Rogers of the New York Jets.

On the R.F.

I think if he had a choice between being a quarterback for the jets or doing anything else.

I think he'd probably be willing to do it.

Yes, it's true, but you know running for vice president is tough and he could blow out his a c.

again working with R. I'm sure.

Let's let's pick it up however back with the other issue which is you know we knew it was

going to be Trump and Biden now it's Trump and Biden you know it's astonishing as it is to

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