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🗓️ 17 September 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Earlier this week, officials from the U.S. and China flew to Madrid for yet another round of trade negotiations. |
| 0:12.4 | For two days, the delegations hold up in a 17th century palace, discussing terms about everything from soybean imports to tariffs. |
| 0:20.2 | But one issue quickly emerged as a focal point, TikTok. |
| 0:25.5 | For months, TikTok's U.S. presence has been hanging on the edge of survival, |
| 0:29.9 | as the U.S. and China negotiated over the app's ownership. |
| 0:33.7 | And as the two sides met in Madrid, they faced a pressing deadline. |
| 0:37.9 | Unless they could agree on a way to sell TikTok to a U.S. owner by today, September 17th, |
| 0:43.2 | the app would go dark for its 170 million U.S. users. |
| 0:47.5 | It's a potentially make or break moment for TikTok. |
| 0:51.7 | Today was the day that the last Trump extension expired. So it would have forced |
| 0:58.4 | essentially the shutdown of the app. But at the last minute, they kind of emerge from these |
| 1:04.2 | meetings and said, we have a framework of a deal. That's our colleague Alex Leary, who covers |
| 1:08.9 | politics. Now, the key word there is framework. |
| 1:12.0 | That does not mean a deal. |
| 1:13.0 | It means a framework, sort of the outlines of a deal. |
| 1:15.6 | So one big caution here is that a lot of this is still being worked out. |
| 1:23.0 | What did it take to get to this framework that we're at? |
| 1:27.3 | A lot of private talks and background discussions, essentially high level. |
| 1:33.1 | This is high stakes. |
| 1:34.1 | So it's taken a lot of sort of behind the scenes wrangling among the Trump administration |
| 1:39.6 | and leading business figures and companies. |
| 1:44.0 | So what's in this proposed deal? And who comes out ahead? Music and leading business figures and companies. |
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