Well, we're doing a topic that's probably not in our best interest, but I don't care.

I think it's interesting, and that's how I do things.

But it is, we had an interesting conversation off the air, and this oversaturation of sports,

like look at last night as a case and point, what is NBC doing NBA on NBC on a Tuesday night? Shouldn't that be like the King of Queens or something? I don't know. Like a re-rack of Seinfeld on a Tuesday night? Right. Episode of The Voice or whatever they had. Right. No, no. But see, I think we're offering our listeners a little bit of a safe space because I do think a lot of people think that way,

but it's almost like you're not a real sports fan and you're not tough guy.

If you're sitting there saying, yeah, I'm a little saturated.

I'm a little, there's a little too much sports going on at all times.

That's the problem.

It's like on every channel, every streaming service, every day of the week that you don't

get a chance to flat out miss it. And yeah, come next month, the NFL is going to say, oh,

college football is done. Saturdays will now be filled. We'll give you three games on Saturday.

You bring up the streaming thing too. I got news for you. I think people are learning to live pretty easily without ESPN. There's an ESPN fatigue. And they're not winning that PR battle. And I, you know, oh, I couldn't watch Monday Night Football. Who cares? Game of scoreless at the hat. See, that's the other dirty secret.

You could be told things are good. It doesn't mean they are. The product in a lot of it is not ideal. So I know, to your point, too, look at the streaming thing. It's gotten to a point where it's, look, I always stayed with cable because of what we did for a living. and I wanted ease of use, but I needed everything in one place.

Okay, I'm a boomer.

The point is, now people have more subscriptions and are spending more than they would have had they stayed in the first place. I was about to say it actually cost you less, Mike, for your cable. Yeah, look, I'm old school. I like cable. I'm good at it. The point I'm making is people now have to look harder for their sports. And even when you don't want it, how about do this test? You don't want to watch sports in the middle of a week and you, God willing, you enjoy the person you are married to like I am blessed to be.

Let's look for something on the old telly.

800 college basketball games last.

I'm going, okay, hold on.

I mean, I won't be shocked at this point if HBO is showing Creighton versus Gonzaga tomorrow night

instead of like a movie.

Wait, HBO actually does show stuff.

No, they do show that.

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