This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Drey.

Now more than 100 days after Nancy Guthrie was abducted from her Tucson home, Pima County Sheriff, Chris Nettos made a striking admission recently.

He is no longer communicating directly with the victim's family.

What does that mean for this? There's a lot of ways to read that. A lot of people have been

talking about it online and over on Break the Case with Jennifer Coffendaffer. Who happens to be

with us today?

I'm curious, Jen, as we begin discussing all this and this development of Nanos no longer in direct communication with the Guthrie family, including Savannah and her siblings.

What exactly does that mean? I know you've been tweeting a lot about it in this last week.

Well, you know, it's interesting, Tony,

because these are spontaneous utterances

that Sheriff Nanos is so well known for.

And I really think he wishes he could just rewind and either not address that

question or address it more opaque. But basically, to me, that's just saying they don't want to

talk to him because I've never been in a situation ever where the family doesn't want to talk to you or

you don't have the lines of communication. And remember, he does say they're speaking with the FBI.

So it says a lot. Yeah. And you know me, like always, I just looked up the stat on this. So this

only happens where the sheriff breaks contact with the victim's family, like only 15 15, 20% of the time max. I mean, it's kind of like that office, if anyone ever watches the office, the sitcom, where they give Michael Scott a practice run first with answering a phone and it's fake, and then he hangs up and he starts again, and it's better the second time. I think that's Nanos incarnate. He really needs a do over on everything he says. He needs a mute button as what he needs. And he needs to he needs to exercise the mute button and then take a second before things come out of his mouth. Some people just don't really have that very well. I feel like he's one of them where it's like maybe well intentioned but let's let's's learn how to message more effectively. You think that'd be the self-awareness aspect of it. He's been able to hide, I think, behind a lot of successes in the past by his department, I think. And also like Jen always says, is that you know, you always go down to the people on the ground doing the gritty hard work, and he's got some

decent people, at least in the past he has. But in this one, no, he is way as an outlier by

breaking comms with the victim's family. He had said it works both ways. Okay, I guess that, you know,

that makes sense if the family doesn't want to speak with him.

You know, we're getting into the territory of conjecture and opinion here, but why do you, why?

I mean, maybe I have some ideas, but I'm curious what yours are, Jen.

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