Hey, everybody and welcome back to the find out podcast, episode 26.

We thought that we were only going to talk about Jeffrey Epstein for one episode. But Donald Trump seems to be getting deeper and deeper in trouble with his base. And it is kind of the top story right now. So we're going to talk a little bit about that. Also a little bit about his mental decline and also some weird makeup on his hands and things like that.

And what this means for Democrats in 2026 and beyond.

So, guys, this morning, Donald Trump actually lashed out at MAGA.

He didn't say MAGA, but it lashed out for the first time at people who believed the quote-unquote Jeffrey Epstein hoax in his words, which is really, I guess I should say, oh, that's rich.

Unfortunately, he's not with us.

But his name lives on today.

He's just traveling today.

That's why he's not here.

But the guy that drove this story more than anybody, it would be sort of like him saying that the Obama birth certificate stuff was a hoax when he was the one perpetrating that for so many years. But we have never seen Donald Trump lash out at his own supporters before. And there are some reports that internally they are freaking out, him in particular, because he doesn't know what to do. We don't actually know if there

is a list or if he's lying about a list to get elected or if he's on the list. So it's a really

fascinating moment to be watching all of this unfold to see him attack his supporters for the first time.

I'm enjoying it.

Oh, oh, I love it.

I'm deeply enjoying it.

So Luke, I'm going to ask you first.

Does this, is this, do you think that this is a split that can't be healed or will they just fall back in line whenever he says

some bullshit?

Once the check clears, they'll be, they'll be back in line.

Especially, like, fuck, Charlie Kirk, that got his ass on Canberra.

I think it was the 11th of July talking publicly about how they need to release the Epstein list.

Four days later, no, three days later on his fucking show.

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