But one thing, I saw a video, Nelly talking about how he came out at the hardest time in hip-hop, because of how many, like Marve said earlier, characters, he had to kind of compete with Jay-Z, DMX, Eminem, Little Wayne, Ludacris, 50 Cent. And then he, those clip was playing each of their, like, clips from certain songs, yeah. And I was like, do you know what? Looking back at it, yeah, every single one of them had their own sound. Jay-Z sounded a certain way, 50 sounded a certain way, Nelly sounded a certain way, Nelly sounded a certain way, Luda, Wayne. And they all came out at the same time, but they were all competing for that one space in the same chart, yeah. Whereas today, like you said, Gunner, there's a few Gunner-esque artists that you put in the same category. But I wouldn't now argue, say, oh, Gunner's better than Nas because I listen to Gunner more than Nas. No, I can respect what Naz is doing over there, and wouldn't compare them But I think those days were different

Because they didn't

You know like the old heads

Or the older like to like

Change stuff yeah

And I get what Luda's saying

Nelly Nelly

But they didn't drop albums at the same time

Like

Record companies knew All right Luda was dropping in August.

All right, Nelly ain't dropping in August.

Nellie is going to drop in November or December.

Do I'm saying?

They never, whereas now on Spotify, bro, Gunner's coming at the same day as this person, there's like five rappers released in the

same day.

I'm just saying, so it's very different.

In them days, Pete, when Mariah Carey was releasing the album, there was a press run.

Everyone knew.

So Sony is like, all right, this is our record artist coming out.

Then maybe, I don't know,

Death Jam is like, yeah, Mariah's dropping that, you know.

Yeah, but are you saying this? We can't bring anyone out and let's give Mariah a little time. Yeah, but are you saying this as a good thing or bad thing? No, I'm saying as the way... This is just the way the land was then. Yeah, Lancashate was very different than there's in a lot.

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