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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Is the Debt-Ceiling Deal a Template to Fix Washington, or a Mere Blip?

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

President, Barack, News, Politics, Wnyc, Obama, Lizza, Washington, Wickenden

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Policymakers have avoided a financial catastrophe just days before the “X-Date,” when the U.S. Treasury would have run out of money to pay its bills. Despite some opposition from members of both parties, the House and Senate chambers passed the Fiscal Responsibility Act, a compromise by Speaker McCarthy and President Biden that will raise the debt ceiling until January of 2025. While the Hill was consumed by these negotiations, the judiciary continued to hold insurrectionists accountable for their roles in the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol. Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers, was sentenced to eighteen years in prison for seditious conspiracy, which the sentencing judge called one of the most serious crimes an individual in America can commit. The sentencing was a victory for democracy, but also a reminder of the anger that still courses through the country and fuels our political system. The New Yorker staff writers Susan B. Glasser, Jane Mayer, and Evan Osnos analyze these two recent events and consider whether the political center can hold in such a rage-filled America.

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Before we go any further, can I just say we have to acknowledge the audio tape that is in fact now turning out to be pretty important for

0:55.4

the prosecution of Donald Trump blowing a gasket. Am I right, Susan, that he was blowing a

1:00.5

gasket about your story? You know, that is according to CNN, that is the reporting. And I was

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just like, scream me the other day when I saw this news story. This was a story in the summer of 2021 doing the reporting for the book The Divider. And we did this reporting about General Millie and his concerns that Trump would take the country to war with Iran in the tumultuous final days of the Trump presidency. And Trump apparently decided he was

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going to weaponize a classified document that he had kept with him. And it's all on tape. What an incredible.

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I think it's amazing. I mean, you may have played a huge part in the potential conviction of Donald Trump.

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Well, we're getting ahead.

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But look at this.

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Also, let's just celebrate real reporting.

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I mean, you did the reporting.

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You got this amazing story about how they did not trust the President of the United States not to start a war in order to try to stay in office.

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And you get the story.

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