What's up everybody and welcome back to another episode of the kind of funny ex-cast

your home for all things Xbox here at kind of funny. I'm one of your host Snowbike

Mike and today I'm joined by just one of my gaming dads, Mr. Gary Whittah here

at the table. And of course we have a very special guest Gary. I brought on an

expert to help school you and I and the audience on the big Microsoft versus

FTC court case going on right now as the closing arguments are in. I thought

you know what? Let's get someone who knows their stuff. Let's get someone who's

not a Gibroni like you and I. The school is just a little bit. So I brought on

one incredible gal. She's a freelance journalist previously at the Washington

Post. She is written for the New York Times, CNN, The Verge, IGN, and so much more.

It's Shannon Liao. Shannon, how are you today? Oh, I'm doing well. How are you Mike?

It's so great to see you. I am wonderful. It was great to see you again. Of course,

I've been lucky enough as the rookie here at kind of funny to go to a number of

gaming events this spring and summer. And I've got to bump in and meet Shannon at all

these different events and everybody talks so highly of her. And she was so nice to

meet me and talk to video games with me. So I thought, you know what? Let's call her

up. She's the expert today. Oh, thank you. I'm actually very glad to have a proper

expert on this. When we were talking about this case on the show last week, yes, as the

words were coming out of my mouth, I've never been more aware of the fact that I had no

idea what I was talking about. So a proper expert is very welcome on the show this week.

We're really happy to have you, Shannon. And of course, we're going to talk all things

court case in just a little bit. But I want to talk a little bit about you because of

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