Hello and welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast.

My name is Caleb Keith, and today I am joined by Scott Keith, Magnus Person, and Adam Francisco.

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The theme of our conference that we are doing this at is Long Live the Church.

It's an interesting theme because I remember when people were talking last year, year you know before it was an ounce what

is the theme i remember somebody telling rod yeah that the theme was going to be long-lived

the church and rod rolled his eyes and let out of the big ah ha and so for everybody familiar

with rod it's not because he hated the church, Universal or something like this, but that Rod was not a great team player when it came to institutions.

Or talking about the institution of the church.

Yes.

Yeah.

You know, he's imagining a board meeting, right, that this turns into us brainstorming about that.

But the reason that I think that we chose a conference topic long-lived the church

is both because it's a true statement of fact.

The church will be long-lived, but particularly because right now it doesn't feel like it.

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