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Is the Banking System Safer Than It Was in 2008?

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🗓️ 21 April 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

When the Great Recession struck, it was the start of the most significant economic downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s. A slumping housing market revealed vulnerabilities of huge numbers of mortgage-backed securities and derivatives. In the aftermath, unemployment soared to 10%. GDP dropped by more than 4%, and federal authorities unleashed a series of unprecedented fiscal and monetary policies aimed at stemming the bleeding. When the dust finally settled, legislators and regulators pushed through a series of reforms meant to prevent the repeat of such a calamity. Fast forward to 2023 and the global banking system may be facing its most significant crisis since 2008. Within a short span, a run on deposits at Silicon Valley Bank quickly led to the third-largest bank failure in U.S. history, with Switzerland's Credit Suisse later seeking government lifelines. A second US regional bank — Signature Bank — failed, and a third — First Republic Bank — was propped up. To some, these are signs of the kinds of broader risks the global economy stared down in 2008. A combination of factors, including an eroding of regulations, sharp interest rate rises, mismanagement at banks, coupled with the overarching uncertainty of volatile crypto landscape, have raised new questions about the scale of turmoil that could confront markets. This cocktail of risks, some argue, has added such dangers to banking systems that it is no longer safer than it was in 2008. Others disagree. As bad this recent crisis appears to be, they say, regulatory reforms and liquidity requirements have made significant strides since the days of 2008. The system also effectively contained the contagion, something that required far greater government intervention in 2008. In that context, we debate the following question: Is the Banking System Safer Than It Was in 2008? Arguing YES: Jason Furman, Former Chairman, Council of Economic Advisers Arguing NO: Gillian Tett , Editor-at-Large, Financial Times (U.S.) Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi everybody, this is Open2Debate. Welcome, I am John Don Van. And as life is always moving

0:12.1

and things are always changing, situations, etc. There are times when to us at Open2Debate

0:17.5

it makes sense to debate again a question that we have looked at in the past. So in 2018

0:24.9

when we were at that point 10 years out from the 2008 financial crisis, we held the debate

0:30.6

asking whether the banking system had become safer over those 10 years. It was a good debate,

0:37.0

some good arguments, so I recommend you check it out. But now we're in this moment again

0:40.8

when huge headlines are being written about the failure of some significant banks seemingly

0:46.4

out of nowhere, Silicon Valley, Credit Suisse, and with a lot of alarms being sounded, like

0:52.7

by the head of JP Morgan warning that the crisis is not over yet and he says it's going to be

0:57.4

felt for years to come. So we thought let's ask this question again. Weren't there guardrails put

1:02.9

in place after 2008 that were supposed to keep things systemically safe? Are they working? Are they not?

1:08.7

Is it the case after all? As we are asking in this debate, re-asking, the banking system is it

1:14.0

safer than it was in 2008? We're having this one argued by two veteran debaters by which I mean

1:19.3

they've been our guests many times before. We like them a lot because they are players in the

1:23.2

world we're going to be talking about and they're both excellent debaters. So let's meet them.

1:28.7

Arguing that yes, the banking system is safer than in 2008, former chairman for the council

1:34.4

of economic advisors Jason Furman. Jason, thanks so much for joining us on Open to Debate.

1:38.9

Great to be here. And arguing know that the banking system is not safer than in 2008,

1:44.2

editor at large for the financial times. Julian Tet welcome Julian welcome back.

1:48.7

Great to be here and particularly great to be here with Jason. So let's get to it. We want to

1:53.2

give each of you a chance a few minutes to use that time to explain your position why you're

1:58.8

arguing yes and why you're arguing no an answer to the question. So Julian you're up first with

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