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Coffee House Shots

Is Starmer doing enough for Ukraine?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Keir Starmer is in Ukraine today, on his first visit to Kyiv since becoming Prime Minister. And he came bearing gifts: a 100-year partnership agreement between the UK and Ukraine, covering nine ‘pillars’ from culture to science. It is hoped that the new pact will define the relationship between the two countries well beyond the current conflict with Russia. This is all in the context of Donald Trump’s return to the White House, with his administration agitating for a peace deal. Is peace on the horizon?

Also on the podcast, Kemi Badenoch's big speech – in which she criticised the decisions made by successive Tory prime ministers – was overshadowed by the announcement that there will be  government-backed inquiries into grooming gangs. Is this the right call? 

Oscar Edmondson speaks to Katy Balls and Mark Galeotti, head of Mayak Intelligence and honorary professor at UCL School of Slavonic and East European Studies.

Produced by Oscar Edmondson. 

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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Oscar Edmondson,

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and I'm joined today by Katie Balls and Mark Galiotti, who is head of Mayak Intelligence

0:27.7

and also an honorary professor at UCL's School of Slavonic and East European Studies.

0:33.4

Now, Kyrs Stama is in Ukraine today on his first visit to Kiev since becoming prime minister,

0:38.2

and he came bearing gifts.

0:40.4

Mark, I don't suppose you could take us through this treaty that he's offering.

0:44.9

Yes, look, it's got the rather grandiloquent sort of label of being a hundred-year treaty.

0:50.7

And like all of these treaties tends to be, it's rather more about show than about real content.

0:58.6

There is some genuine content in there, particularly in terms of military cooperation,

1:02.3

which is very valuable, and a continued commitment to the current £3 billion every year

1:07.5

in military aid. A lot of the rest, though, did to me, to my cynical mind,

1:13.8

look a little bit like they were just casting round for initiatives. So we've got lots of talk

1:18.7

about scientific and technical partnerships, which really will, it only is going to kick in once

1:23.7

there is some kind of a piece. Building lifelong friendships with classroom partnerships

1:29.7

between Ukrainian and British schools. 40 million pounds to kickstart economic recovery. Well,

1:37.2

40 million pounds means a lot to you and me, but in terms of governments, it's essentially the

1:41.2

money that you find reaching behind the sofa cushions.

1:49.1

I mean, it's equivalent to what the RAF is spending to develop its new helmet for fighter pilots, for example. So on the one hand, I must admit, I have to give Starmer full credit

1:54.5

for not just simply rushing over there for a photo opportunity with Vladimir Zelensky,

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