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It's time for part two of Donald Hoffman.

I'm your host, Tom Bill You, and welcome to Impact Theory.

So I'm just trying to understand. So the thing that I, that I'm sort of debating in my own head is, okay, when I grant you that consciousness is fundamental, then there's all this internal logic to the spacetime continuum that I know and love.

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