Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a special series of discussions about US politics

and the Trump presidency, or as we journalists call it, the gift that keeps on giving.

I'm Freddie Gray, I'm Deputy Editor and Spectator.

Today I'm joined by Paul Wood of the BBC, and we're going to be asking, is pornography going to bring down Donald Trump?

Paul, it's already been said quite a lot that there's now a race on between the porn stars and the Russia inquiry to bring down Trump.

Who do you think is winning that race at the moment?

Well, the porn stars are part of the tabloid reality that President

Trump has shifted America into. This was his life before and now it's the life of the nation.

Some exciting news for spectator readers. Apparently the porn star Stormy Daniels, who accuses

Mr Trump of carrying on an affair and then trying to silence her, did some photo shoots for the

pornographic magazine Hustler when she was young

and trying to break into the porn business, which were not published at the time. Now, of course,

she has currency. These will be available shortly for everybody, courtesy of Larry Flint,

publisher of Hustler magazine. Just another day in Trump's America.

Do you think, I mean, just on that, do you think, you know, my thought on this is often,

she's clearly an outrageous self-publicist.

She doesn't seem to have given up her pornography career, judging by her Twitter account.

How much should we believe anything she says?

A lot of people I spoke to simply found her a very credible witness on 60 minutes. Now, that could be

because she's a good actress. She's looking to monetise this. One political consultant said,

you know, Stormy Daniels, she'll make five million. The next woman who comes along, she'll make

half a million. The woman after that will be opening supermarkets in Fort Lauderdale, Florida for

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