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Hello and welcome to Coffee How Shots, the spectator's daily politics podcast.

I'm Max Jeffrey and I'm joined by Katie Bulls and James Forsyth.

It's the Tory Spring Conference this weekend. James, what are we expecting?

So I think we'll have a good hear speeches from Rishi Sunack, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove,

and I think in some ways it is trying to set the stage for the Tory's local election campaigns

out of May. I think that's a lot of councillors who'll be barrel and be interested in.

But it's also the first gathering of the Tory tribe since both partygate and the war in Ukraine.

And I think you can see, already Jacob Riesmorgas says something that I mean,

slightly ill advised, that basically saying, well look,

partygate has all been put into perspective by the cost of the crisis in Ukraine.

These are kind of big serious issues, so we shouldn't concentrate on that.

And there's another kind of, I'm not entirely sure how helpful this is,

briefing from people close to Boris Johnson saying, well you know, he can now survive

even a fine over partygate, the political dynamics are so changed.

But there is no doubt that politics does feel this and this spring conference does feel different

than it would have done a few months ago. I think a few months ago everyone would have thought

that this would have been a kind of almost like a leadership beauty parade of contenders.

I mean, it's not that anymore. But I think that the politics of the

Ukraine crisis are going to become more complicated for the government because the tension

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