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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Is Newsom ‘Trolling' Trump An Effective Strategy For Dems?

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4663 Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The left is taking a variety of different, somewhat disjointed approaches to counter-messaging the Trump administration.

Transcript

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0:00.0

from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, August 25th.

0:14.9

You don't need to look any further than Fox News in the Wall Street Journal editorial page

0:20.0

to find questions about whether the

0:22.3

Trump administration is acting in defiance of the law. One of this morning's top stories, if you

0:28.7

haven't seen it yet, is the detention again for deportation again of Kilmar-Abregar-Garcia,

0:35.6

who the administration admitted was wrongly deported to El Salvador

0:39.3

earlier this year, and a series of court rulings, even from the usually Trump-friendly Supreme Court,

0:45.7

resulted in bringing him back. Remember the Garcia-A-Obrigo story? Then they charged him with a crime

0:52.3

to detain him again, something that he allegedly did years ago in Tennessee.

0:57.2

He fleeted not guilty and was recently freed while fighting that case.

1:02.7

He was fighting it on the grounds of selective prosecution to make a point, a political point.

1:09.3

He refused a plea deal, which would have had him serve time in prison

1:15.2

in the United States and then be deported to Costa Rica where he could have apparently gone free.

1:21.6

He turned down that deal to try to prove his innocence, they say.

1:25.8

But this morning, at a required immigration check, they detained

1:30.2

him again with the intent this time to deport him to Uganda. He's from El Salvador, remember?

1:36.8

The take on the Fox News website included this shortly before Kilmar Abra was detained, quote, should ICE immediately arrest Abrago-Garcia,

1:50.6

their actions would likely defy a court order handed down by U.S. District Judge Paula Zinnis

1:56.6

and Obama appointee, which sought to preclude ICE from immediately arresting Abrago Garcia upon return.

2:04.6

Lawyers for the Justice Department vehemently opposed Abrago Garcia's release from custody,

2:09.8

arguing at an evidentiary hearing earlier this year that he was a danger to the community

2:15.1

in describing him as a member of MS-13, a claim that was

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