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🗓️ 5 August 2025
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“The die has been cast. We’re going for the full conquest of the Gaza Strip – and defeating Hamas." That was the quote from the Israeli Prime Minister's office given to media last night in Jerusalem.
Despite mounting criticism of the plan, including from former military officials, politicians and the families of the hostages still in Hamas captivity, Benjamin Netanyahu appears determined to occupy the entirety of Gaza.
Why is he ignoring the pleas, both domestically and internationally, not to escalate the conflict? Would it help or hinder his efforts to free the hostages and eliminate Hamas? And what would it mean for the dire humanitarian situation in the Strip, where famine has taken hold?
Jon and Lewis speak to Husam Zomlot, the head of the Palestinian mission to the UK.
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0:12.5 | Cities like broken skeletons laid waste by war. |
0:17.8 | Graveyards of life and lives. |
0:21.2 | The streets, homes and coffee houses of old now cast to the ground. |
0:26.5 | That is Emma Murphy from ITN's News at Ten last night. |
0:31.5 | A report of her overflying Gaza with the Jordanian Air Force |
0:37.0 | as they're preparing to drop aid by parachutes onto the |
0:42.4 | wasteland that is now Gaza. In the last 24 hours, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister, |
0:49.2 | has briefed his cabinet that he intends not to scale down the war, not to reduce pressure, but that he wants |
0:57.2 | to take over Gaza in its entirety, arguing that Hamas still poses an existential threat to Israel. |
1:05.2 | But after 20 months of endless bloodshed of humanitarian disaster. |
1:12.4 | And given Hamas is still there, |
1:14.7 | isn't this just Einstein's definition of insanity, |
1:18.2 | doing the same thing over and over again |
1:21.6 | and expecting a different result? |
1:24.3 | Welcome to the newsagents. |
1:30.3 | The newsagents. The newsagents. |
1:31.8 | It's John. It's Lewis. |
1:33.3 | And from Benjamin Netanyahu's office has gone a message to the head of the IDF, |
1:40.7 | the head of the Israeli Defence Forces, to plan for this idea of the full occupation |
1:47.2 | of the Gaza Strip. |
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