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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Is Josh Hawley the Future of the G.O.P.?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2019

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Is Missouri Senator Josh Hawley the future of the Republican Party? Ross Douthat sits down with the first-term lawmaker to discuss the conservative case for cracking down on powerful tech companies and reducing the price of prescription drugs. They discuss who the 2017 Republican-passed tax law really helped and whether conservative economic populism can exist free of President Trump’s racism. Then, Michelle Goldberg and David Leonhardt join Ross to debate Hawley’s ideas. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.3

I'm Ross Daufield.

0:02.5

I'm David Lee and Hart.

0:03.7

And this is the argument.

0:05.9

This week, Ross sits down with Senator Josh Holley of Missouri,

0:09.9

who's been called the future of the Republican Party.

0:12.5

What we need in this country, we need in the Senate,

0:15.7

is a politics that's focused on what I've called the American middle.

0:18.8

Then, Ross Michelinai talk about what a real conservative populism might look like.

0:24.7

That's a clue about who he really means

0:27.5

when he talks about, quote unquote, average Americans,

0:30.4

or when he talks about the middle.

0:32.6

And finally, a recommendation.

0:34.9

It was the best cable prestige drama I watched on TV all of last year.

0:41.0

[♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪

0:50.7

Josh Holley is the youngest member of the United States Senate.

0:54.0

He's 39 years old, a former Missouri Attorney General,

0:57.3

and last year, he beat the Democratic incumbent, Claire McCaskill,

1:00.8

in a closely watched race.

1:02.8

We want to talk with Holley because he's part of a change in the Republican Party,

1:07.0

in which more Republicans at least talk the language of populism,

1:11.1

rather than of big business.

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