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DarkHorse Podcast

Is James Lindsay Wrong About the 'Woke Right'?

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

4.65.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2025

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

James Lindsay has been in the “hot seat” for the last nine months over using and promoting the idea that there is a “woke right.” Bret Weinstein sits down with James for a special DarkHorse intervention. Joining them in Palm Springs is their friend and filmmaker, Michael Nayna. Find James Lindsay on X at https://x.com/ConceptualJames and on https://newdiscourses.com. Find Michael Nayna on X at https://x.com/mikenayna and on https://www.michaelnayna.com. ***** Sponsors: Masa Chips: D...

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0:00.0

Hey folks, welcome to this very special Dark Horse intervention.

0:04.0

I am, of course, I'm Brett Weinstein.

0:06.0

I'm sitting with James Lindsay, the subject of the intervention.

0:09.0

And I'm, of course, also sitting with Mike Naina.

0:11.0

Welcome to both of you.

0:13.0

I'm feeling like this is a setup.

0:15.0

Well, yeah.

0:17.0

I mean, that's the only way this works.

0:19.0

But in any case, glad to have you here.

0:22.9

Obviously, this is not the usual Dark Horse setup.

0:25.8

We have decided to use AI to render a scene from 1963, and I expect it will look pretty good.

0:34.2

Actually, this is being filmed by Reed Nice Wonder.

0:38.3

I believe that's how he pronounces his name anyway, very generously doing that for us.

0:42.3

And we are here together actually at Freedom Fest, the largest gathering of free minds in the world, I think is how it builds itself.

0:49.3

But in any case, we decided to have this conversation because you, James, have been on the hot seat for, is it months now?

1:00.5

Getting on nine, yeah, nine months.

1:02.5

Nine months.

1:03.8

The baby's ready.

1:06.2

Well, I can imagine that you're feeling back on your heels.

1:09.6

You've taken a tremendous amount of heat, and a lot of it has been very ungenerous to you.

1:15.7

That's true.

1:16.5

And I think you know that Mike and I value you greatly as a friend and as a contributor to the intellectual space.

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