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Is the refugee convention in need of reform?

Would a revised global asylum framework work and how would it look? How can we better balance

national rights and human rights so that the latter do not undermine national sovereignty?

What are the appropriate criteria for being labelled a refugee these days in the 21st century?

How can we stop human rights laws being gamed by smugglers?

Are we delivering safe and legal routes in an efficient and effective manner?

And while we may have different views as to the solutions, I hope we can at least

agree on one thing, that we are living in a new world bound by outdated legal models. It's time

that we acknowledge that. Thank you.

That's Suella Brafferman, a few days away from the Conservative Party conference, speaking in

Washington, and talking about the refugee crisis and saying that the bar is too low for people seeking asylum,

that if you're gay and you're facing discrimination, you should be able to claim asylum.

She argues vehemently against that.

She's calling for a form of the Convention on Human Rights, established by the UN in 1951.

She says that that convention is outdated

and that we're now living in a totally different time.

Is she right? Do we need to tear it up?

Welcome to the newsagents.

The Newsagents.

It's John. It's Lewis.

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