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From W be easy Chicago, this is Nernet.

I'm Greta Johnson and because it is somehow already and yet only September we thought it would be a good time

to check in with a pal about what books you don't want to miss this fall.

Barry Hardiman is NPR's books editor.

Barry, hey! Hello! Hello again! Here we are even further into the pandemic.

I know like what? That's very nice of you to I mean I think it's just because

this closet is a little stuffy but I mean well it's great to be able to

control our own lighting isn't it that's the thing we didn't have in the

pre- Pandemic world so I wish I

wasn't in a basement but what are you gonna do you look great you look thanks so

before we actually talk about books I thought it would be kind of fun to ask you about

the controversy that is what actual fall is like you know

we're in the first week of September now like it's almost Labor Day does that mean it counts or do we wait till September 21st or is it you know like

where do you fall on this?

I have to say I used to live in I lived in LA for two years and which I adored LA but the passing of seasons makes me remember time like otherwise I'd be like how old am I I I mean I know how old I am but like you know what I mean like how old are my kid like it's just like a thing that marks like okay here we are again you get another chance and without

seasons I was kind of like wait a second what's like you just the days run together and especially you know because of the pandemic I'm grateful for fall

Yes anything to demarcate time I suppose just like extra absolutely yeah it's true so when I when I sent you an email to ask you about fall books you were like I have a fun

where I'm we're gonna do as a conceit for this episode will you explain to the

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