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future with the degree you didn't think was possible. The Open University. The future is open. Well, hello and welcome back to Kindled. And man, it has been a minute since I have been with you guys. I took the

summer off, as I always do, and that turned into a little bit long of a break than I had

originally anticipated. But I am so excited to be back with you guys. And I'm so excited to bring

you this conversation today with Ashley Kinsel, a new friend that I met

on Instagram and just found such a kindred spirit connection with, especially as we both

started talking about a very controversial topic at virtually the same time and really just

both have a heart for this topic. And it's one that is

not being discussed really a whole lot by Christians from a perspective of critiquing and you have

what it offers, what the worldview of gentle parenting basically proffers to Christians.

And so I'm excited to bring you this conversation. I know that it's going to be helpful

to those of you who listen. I will say it is certainly not a comprehensive or exhaustive

analysis of gentle parenting.

As you may know, if you follow me on Instagram, I have been talking about this for the good,

I mean, the better part of like the last two months probably.

I haven't, I didn't, I don't know exactly when I started, but I think it's, it's been over a

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