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🗓️ 28 September 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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The French government has launched a campaign against what it calls “the last discrimination”: ageism.
It’s one that a lot of people in the country consider to be justified, and which makes it about three times more difficult to get a job interview. But it’s costly.
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Presented and produced by John Laurenson
(Picture: Job-seeker, Geraldine Coquand.)
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:07.7 | Welcome to Business Daily from the BBC World Service. I'm John Norrinson. |
| 0:12.1 | Today we're in France, which is trying to do something about this sort of thing. |
| 0:16.7 | Finally, I received an email saying, we are deeply sorry, but your experience, seniority, they said in French, is too high considering the team, and it won't fit with the team. |
| 0:31.1 | Ageism. France has some of the worst employment statistics in the world for older workers, and that's one of the reasons. |
| 0:38.5 | We are a long way from ancient Greece, where the senior was a wise person, a knowledgeable |
| 0:43.7 | person, the reference person. When we meet a senior, the best thing we can think of to say |
| 0:49.3 | is that they don't look their age, which shows immediately that we have a problem with age. |
| 0:54.9 | Ageism is bad for state finances, for companies it's a waste of talent. |
| 1:00.0 | For the individuals in question, apart from the financial precarity it often involves, |
| 1:04.5 | comes the sense of injustice and not being judged on their merits. |
| 1:08.4 | We'll be looking at how the French government is fighting what it calls the last discrimination, challenging the language we use, for example. We'll be visiting |
| 1:16.4 | a tech company that does things differently and have advice for you if you're in the 50-60 zone |
| 1:22.3 | and looking for a job, apart from saying AI in every sentence, obviously. That's don't call me senior, coming up in Business Daily. |
| 1:36.0 | Recruit someone over 50, not likely, says an employer in this public service announcement, |
| 1:41.8 | and her friend replies that he hired an over 50 called Sophie, |
| 1:46.0 | who turned out to be his most reliable employee |
| 1:49.2 | and the one who masters AI the best. |
| 1:57.8 | In a co-working space in Paris's prosperous, thrusting and very officy Mero Menel neighborhood, |
| 2:05.6 | Geraldine Cochon, 55, prints out her CV for the zillionth time. |
| 2:11.0 | For her, things are not going as well as they did for Sophie, really not. |
| 2:15.9 | I used to be, and I am still a marketing communication director for the B2B sector. |
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