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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, The Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Cindy U and I'm joined by Katie Balls and Kate Andrews.

So Katie, there's a collective sigh of relief in the government this morning after Donald Trump has finally called Kirstama.

Yes, Kirstama has received the call

and of course, all these things, people say, oh, it's not a competition who he calls first,

or where Donald Trump goes first, but you tend to say that when you think you might not be in front.

And to be fair to Kirstama, he is one of the first major European leaders to receive the phone call.

You, of course, did have the Danes receive a phone call earlier before him about Greenland.

Although they probably didn't want that.

But I suspect it was not the phone call they wanted.

And they've been readouts first in the Financial Times and then other places as to how uncomfortable that phone conversation was, as they heard from the man himself that when he says that he wants Greenland to be part of the US, he is not using this as a negotiating tactic.

There is not more common ground that we found. No, he wants it to happen.

Kirstama, perhaps taking this on board, stayed away from the trickier topics in this phone conversation.

So what we know is it lasted about 45 minutes.

They talked about the Gaza ceasefire.

You had Kirstama paying homage to Donald Trump for the release of the hostages.

Obviously the case of Emily DiMari, who has UK heritage.

She came up.

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