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Coffee House Shots

Is Dom out to get Boris?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2021

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Downing Street insiders have accused Dominic Cummings of being behind a series of lobbying leaks. But why is the Prime Minister's team turning on the former adviser, and will he hit back? Cindy Yu speaks to Katy Balls and Fraser Nelson.

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0:00.0

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0:17.9

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, The Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

0:22.2

I'm Cindy Yu, and I'm joined by Fraser Nelson and Katie Bors.

0:25.7

So the headlines today are all about Dominic Cummings, even though he's left government.

0:29.5

Katie, what's been going on?

0:31.3

Yes, so late last night, you had a briefing drop, actually multiple briefings to a few of the papers.

0:37.9

The Daily Telegraph, which I have in front of me, is Cummings accused of leaking number 10 texts. The

0:42.9

son went more with Boris Johnson suggesting, or at least in their headline suggesting, they

0:47.9

were summarising that Dominic Cummings is a text maniac. And then you'll have a situation in the Times where, again, a very similar

0:56.8

briefing. And what they're all bringing together is a senior Downing Street Source has ultimately

1:02.3

said that they believe that it's Dominic Cummings, who is behind the fact there have been so many

1:06.5

leaks recently about messages, the Prime Minister's personal correspondence. Now, in terms of what

1:12.0

those are, because it's probably helpful just to recap, I mean, there's a real range here.

1:16.4

So we had the WhatsApp with Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince, I think that was last week over football.

1:21.9

This week you've had James Dyson text with Boris Johnson about ventilators. We also had not exactly a text, but reports that Simon

1:29.5

case, because of all these texts, had previously told Boris Johnson to change his number, and the

1:34.0

Prime Minister had declined. I think that one landed particularly badly in Downing Street as a story.

1:38.9

And then also just for, you know, old times sake, we've got a few old claims thrown in. So in some of

1:43.6

the reports they're saying that,

1:45.2

you know, Diana String are also blaming Dominic Cummings now for the leak of the second lockdown.

1:50.4

If you remember at the time, there was a hunt for that number 10, I think at that time being led by

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