This is CBSi and the world. I'm John Bachelor with Professor Paul Halpern. His new book is

Flashes of Creation, George Gamoff, Fred Hoyle, and the Great Big Bang debate. We've now found evidence of the Big Bang or the Big Squeeze or the

creation moment. We also have better and better understanding of how long ago it

happened, 13.88 the temperature of the Cosmos turns out to be I believe

three degrees Kelvin is that correct Paul three yeah more precisely

about 2.73 degrees Calvin, but three was about what they came up with at that time.

And we follow Gama first because he's older and his health becomes a challenge to him in the 1960s.

He will die in 1968.

He's a smoker and he has troubles with alcohol.

However, before he passes away, he recognizes that his work has

contributed to these discoveries. Is that correct, Paul? Oh yes, he started writing to people, he wrote to people, he wrote to Dickey, and

a student, Ralph Alfer, also was writing continuously to them to try to get the record straight because some of the calculations

that were done by the Dickie and People's Group essentially reproduced some of the work that Alfer and under the tutelage of Gamoff had done in the 1940s.

So they were trying to bring attention to their earlier papers and at one one point, Gama went to a conference in New York

and at the conference, he made a statement,

if you lose a penny and then you later find a penny it's still the

same penny the same with my theories yes it's a wonderful metaphor I'd like to

him for now Fred Hoyle

Fred Hoyle works with husband and wife,

Margaret and Jeffrey Burbridge, and Wilson Fowler, you've mentioned him

earlier, William Fowler, you've mentioned him earlier.

You said that Hall's work pursues into the bodies of stars.

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