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Is criticism of the Online Safety Act actually right wing?

Pod Save the UK

Crooked Media

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This week - we’re talking about the internet, Coco’s proclivities toward the disembodied voice of Pedro Pascal and Nish’s struggles to find any time to work on himself. Strap in - it’s a juicy one.  Nish and Coco are joined by technology journalist Chris Stokel-Walker to make sense of the UK’s new online safety laws - which restrict access to harmful and inappropriate content for young people - while simultaneously clamping down on free speech and digital privacy. The conversation is becoming a culture war topic - but are the political class actually having a sensible discussion about this seismic, world’s-first legislation?  And - guidance from the Equality and Human Rights Commission could see trans people excluded from public life. And now it might become law - with no debate, no scrutiny and no vote. We’ll be speaking to journalist Freddy McConnell about the risk to all of our rights and how we can fight back. And later - we’re getting Jezzy with it - we dive into the mailbag to hear your thoughts on the party definitely not called “your party”.  CHECK OUT THIS DEAL FROM OUR SPONSOR https://www.shopify.co.uk/podsavetheuk  USEFUL LINKS  See us Live in London!  https://www.kingsplace.co.uk/whats-on/comedy/pod-save-the-uk/ Write to your MP  https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/ Trans Solidarity Alliance https://www.transsolidarityalliance.com/ehrc-code Freddy’s latest article https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/31/transgender-rights-ehrc-guidance-single-sex-spaces  Guardian article about Lord Dannet https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/05/lord-dannatt-urged-ministers-to-crack-down-on-palestine-action-at-request-of-us-firm  GUESTS Chris Stokel-Walker  Freddy McConnell AUDIO CREDITS  Sky News Pod Save the UK is a Reduced Listening production for Crooked Media. Contact us via email: [email protected] BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/podsavetheuk.crooked.com Insta: https://instagram.com/podsavetheuk Twitter: https://twitter.com/podsavetheuk TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@podsavetheuk Facebook: https://facebook.com/podsavetheuk Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodSavetheUK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Right, that's it. Come on. Lights out. You've got a test tomorrow. Just two minutes. I'm about to reach the next level. It's going off now. Yeah, whatever. Let's see. Where's the app? Oh, here it is. What? How? Oh, no. You're out. Better look next time. Mom! It's game over for late nights on school nights. EE Wi-Fi controls help you get them off the Wi-Fi and into bed.

0:22.8

More parents are choosing EEBroadband, the UK's fastest growing broadband provider.

0:27.8

To verify I see EE.com.com.

0:31.9

Hi, this is Podsafe, the UK. I'm Nish Kumar.

0:34.4

And I'm Cocoa Khan. Nish, you're up in Edinburgh for the Fringe.

0:37.8

How is it?

0:38.4

We are about a week in.

0:40.4

It's been really fun.

0:42.4

There were some Gale Force wins that resulted in some shows being cancelled.

0:46.4

Because to be fair, a lot of Edinburgh venues are simply shipping containers.

0:51.6

I've just got this image in my head of like the skies above the Royal Mile and just

0:55.9

lots of people in costumes. Just airborne, just airborne street performers. Yeah, exactly. There's a

1:02.4

mind. Come to see my show. A whole university a cappella group flying through the air. It's the remake of

1:09.1

Twister we all want to see.

1:15.8

Exactly, exactly. But let's talk about politics. This week we're talking about the internet.

1:21.5

We'll be joined by technology journalist Chris Stokel Walker to make sense of the UK's new online safety laws.

1:32.4

And guidance from the Equality and Human Rights Commission on how the Supreme Court judgment should be enforced could see transgender people excluded from public life. Now it might become law with no debate,

1:37.1

no scrutiny and no vote. We'll be speaking to journalist Freddie McConnell about the risk to all of our rights and how we can fight back. And later, we'll be hearing your thoughts on the party

1:41.0

definitely not called your party. Okay, so first up, let's talk about your access to pornography, Coco. This is a dig, isn't it? This is a dig because I'm the only millennial on earth that doesn't watch porn, basically. You're going to shame me. I'm not shaming you in any way, Coco. I think if anything, it's the opposite. It's not out of some, like, you know, puritanical thing. It's just, it's just not for me. Like, you know, the ethical stuff. Even the books, the audio, it's just not, it's not really my scene. The closest thing. The audio? Yeah, there's audio porn, dude. I'm sorry. Come on, man. Come on, you get with it. There's audio porn, there's literary porn. And I'm not talking about

2:17.8

old school stuff. I mean, there's a whole... You can use your audible credits for port. Yeah,

2:23.1

I don't know about audible. I don't know about audible. Other audio book websites are available.

2:30.0

I feel compelled. I have to tell you what I feel is the closest I've come to pornography recently. I don't know why I feel compelled to tell you this. But when I watched the first season of the Mandalorian, before we realized it was Pedro Pascal, I was like, I think the Mandalorian is the sexiest man on TV. But you didn't know it was Pedro Pascal? That's not sort of a twist. He's in the credits. Well, okay, but I didn't figure it out, right? I didn't know it was Pedro Pascal, but there was something about the way he moved and he was strong and he was silent and he loved a baby. I just think that is the sort of pornography I can sign on for. Anyway. I don't think anybody anticipated this online safety legislation conversation starting with

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