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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Is Big Tech starting to lose?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Podmasters

Society & Culture, Government, News, Politics

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Is Big Tech really as unstoppable as it looks? In recent months US courts and EU regulators have handed out major reverses to tech giants including Apple, Google, Amazon and Meta. Meanwhile Google search is becoming unusable, choked by ads and its own algorithm, and the growth of A.I. means Big Tech could become the victim of Bigger Tech. But at least the tech broligarchs have Trump on their side, right? Murad Ahmed, technology news editor of the Financial Times, talks Andrew Harrison through a looming tipping point for the digital giants.  • Support us on Patreon for early episodes and more. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker to get your £100 sponsored credit.   Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Audio production by Tom Taylor. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:19.7

Hey, I'm Mark Ronson.

0:21.5

And I'm Ray.

0:22.4

To celebrate 150 years of Atmar P.A.

0:25.4

We've teamed up to create something timeless.

0:28.3

A tribute to legacy, rhythm and craft with a very special connection at its heart.

0:33.7

A soundscape from two cities, two perspectives and one shared vision.

0:38.3

Introducing our brand new song, Suzanne.

0:59.8

Hello and welcome back to the bunker, your morning shot of news without the nonsense every weekday. I'm Andrew Harrison. We're used to thinking that we live in an age when big tech

1:06.3

is unstoppable. Bigger than many economies, stronger than most governments. With more powerful platforms

1:11.9

than almost any politician, the tech giants seem able to operate without democratic or

1:16.6

regulatory restraint. And we see the evidence everywhere. Amazon has destroyed the high street,

1:22.2

Facebook and Google have destroyed news journalism. AI corporations like Open AI are destroying

1:27.3

the value of the creative

1:28.1

arts, and Twitter and Facebook could well be on the way to destroying democracy itself.

1:33.4

But what if that's not the full story? When you take a closer look, many supposedly

1:37.5

unstoppable big tech firms have suffered serious setbacks in recent months. Apple, Google, Amazon,

1:43.7

meta, Microsoft and TikToks, and a

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