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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Is America Stuck in a Gerontocracy?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

American politics has an age problem. At least, that’s what voters think. According to a new New York Times/Siena College poll, 33 percent of Democrats who want a different candidate for president in 2024 pointed to Joe Biden’s age as a motivating factor. But a nearly equal percentage say they aren’t keen to have Biden for a second term because of his job performance — or lack thereof. Could the answer to appease voters be that Democrats just need some young blood? Or is there a deeper rift between voters — especially young ones — and political leadership? Jane Coaston brings together Michelle Cottle, a Times editorial board member, and David Brooks, an Opinion columnist, to parse out what we are really talking about when we talk about age in politics. “What is age actually a proxy for?” Cottle asks. “Is it your concerns about fading ability, or is it concerns about a lack of fighting spirit?” But for Brooks, the question is centered more on stagnancy: “Why has the gerontocracy been able to stay in power? What is it about these people that they’ve been able to persevere and just stick around?”

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0:00.0

It's the argument.

0:03.2

I'm Jane Kostin.

0:07.4

Everyone is old, including you.

0:11.6

Sorry.

0:13.6

Maybe that's a little excessive.

0:15.7

Not everyone is old.

0:17.6

But President Biden is, so is Bernie Sanders, and Nancy Pelosi, and Elizabeth Warren.

0:23.5

For Democrats attempting to hold on to Congress, and in two years the White House, that's

0:28.0

a problem.

0:29.0

There's some evidence that younger voters might want to vote for a politician who, I don't

0:33.5

know, maybe didn't have first-hand memory of the Korean War.

0:38.1

In a new NYT survey, 33% of Democrats who want a different candidate for President in

0:43.1

2024, as a lot of younger voters do, wanted to Biden's age as a motivating factor.

0:49.8

But let's be real.

0:51.5

There's no age limit on being a bad politician.

0:54.4

And I think that younger voters might be reacting less to the data on their birth certificate

0:58.3

and more to how they are or aren't meeting the political moment.

1:02.4

So today, age, gerontocracy, and what we're actually talking about when we say, everyone

1:08.7

in politics is too damn old.

1:11.4

My guess today are times editorial board member Michelle Cattle.

1:14.9

Of course there's a gerontocracy issue.

1:17.5

There's a gerontocracy issue throughout our society.

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