Welcome to the Eric Mataxes Show. You know they say it's a thin line between love and hate,

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Hey there folks, I want to continue my conversation with Irving Roth. He experienced the

Holocaust. He experienced Auschwitz. We're talking about it right now. There's a film out called

Never Again in which he's featured. It's mind-boggling to me Irving to talk to you about this. You seem

like a very youthful 91 and you're talking about things that most of us cannot even dream about.

You remember them vividly. It seems to me. You describe at age 14 and a half being sent off

to hard labor from Auschwitz. Did you know that your grandparents and your aunts and uncles and

others in your family who'd been separated from you that they had been murdered? Did you know that?

Yes. Because there were people there who were involved in the murder, both the cleanup process,

which was done by prisoners, mostly Jewish young prisoners, whose job it was well going into the

gas chamber, take the bodies, put them on an elevator, take them on, fly it up and burn the bodies.

It was called special command or zonder commando whose job it was that and of course every three

months they would change those people because they didn't want anybody to know I suppose.

And so they too were in danger. So we knew there's no question of how did you make

sense of this at the time because it's so it's so evil that I just cannot imagine knowing that

this is going on. Was it something that the whole thing happened slowly and you became more and

more used to this to this evil around you? It was really evil as you say but it was evil genius in

a way. If you want to get rid of a huge number of people, you're talking the total Jewish population

of Europe, there was many millions of people and six million of them were actually murdered.

I mean you're talking about a lot of people and for this you need mechanisms to do it.

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