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Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, host of FP Live and Foreign Policy's editor-in-chief. Today we wanted to share a bonus episode with you.

Our friends at the Irregular Warfare Institute have a bi-weekly podcast that we think you might like.

It's called the Irregular Warfare Podcast,

and each episode features an in-depth conversation with military practitioners and policy makers.

So here's their episode.

It's called deterrence through asymmetry, preparing for conflict in the Taiwan Strait.

Take a listen.

To really have strategic ambiguity, teeth, in other words, for China to believe that we could come to the aid of Taiwan in the event that China decides they're seizing it by force, there's not strong enough deterrence.

Deterance did not work in Ukraine.

That's created a war that certainly is creating unbelievable human destruction

and damage to the country of Ukraine,

and we can't allow something like that to start in Taiwan.

What would it mean to the credibility of American global leadership if we had stood by or failed successfully to intervene,

to keep one of the most liberal, vibrant democracies in the world, not to even mention Asia,

from being just wiped off the face of the map.

Nice little democracy you had there.

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