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Iraq: 20 Years On | ISIS, Terror and Extremism

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🗓️ 23 March 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

How did the Iraq war fuel terror and extremism around the world? What is the connection between Al-Qaeda and ISIS? How did figures like Abū Muṣʻab Zarqāwī and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi become such prominent figures in Jihadism’s global civil war? On episode four of this series Iraq: Legacy of War, brought to you by Intelligence Squared, foreign correspondent Secunder Kermani is joined by Lina Khatib, Director of the SOAS Middle East Institute; Joby Warrick, journalist and author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning book Black Flags: The Rise of ISIS; and Tam Hussein, investigative journalist and author of The Darkness Inside. Black Flags: The Rise of ISIS by Joby Warrick: https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/joby-warrick The Darkness Inside by Tam Hussein: https://tinyurl.com/bddmmz7m To listen to the whole series now please subscribe via Intelligence Squared Premium on Apple Podcasts or here: https://iq2premium.supercast.com/ for ad-free listening, bonus content, early access and much more. This series was produced by Farah Jassat and Catharine Hughes, with editing and artwork from Catharine Hughes. Music is by Lesfm. Excerpts featured in this episode are from DW News. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, this is Jeremy Bowen, the International Editor of BBC News, and I'm here because I want

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to talk to you about an event I'm doing with Intelligent Squared on the 2nd of November in London,

0:11.5

and I'm going to be talking about the more than 30 years that I've spent reporting on major

0:17.6

events in the Middle East with my great friend and colleague over many, many years, Justin Webb.

0:25.6

And I'm sure we'll talk about a few other things as well, Justin and I started at the BBC on

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the same day in 1984. So, if you'd like to join us either in person or online, then visit

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IntelligentSquared.com to find out more.

0:49.4

Hello, it's Kamala Ahmed here, and I'm here to tell you about

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energised, the brand new podcast Intelligent Squared is launching in partnership with E.

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If humans are to blame for climate change, then we must also provide the solutions,

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1:47.2

Welcome to Iraq, Legacy of War. Brought to you by IntelligentSquared, I'm producer Catherine

1:55.3

Hughes. In this limited series, we're looking at the Legacy of the War in Iraq 20 years after

2:00.8

the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003. Every day this week we'll bring you a special episode.

2:07.7

Join us as we look back at one of the most significant military interventions in modern history,

2:13.4

and if you missed episodes one, two, or three of this series where we discuss the road to war,

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