This is

is CBS I in the world. I'm John Bachelor.

Malcolm Holin, the Conference of Presidents,

Major American Jewish Organizations,

my good friend and colleague is my co-host, and we're very pleased to be joined by our longtime colleague and informant, Ilan Berman.

He is the Vice President of the American Foreign Policy Council.

Elon, I frame it this way.

You've taught me over the years.

Right now we're looking at Vladimir Putin

of the Russian Federation at war with NATO, he says,

but certainly at war with the Ukrainian people walking and

talking military with Shijenping in Beijing. Beijing, Shijin ping, is totally

dependent on Middle Eastern oil, as I understand it, as they attempt to revive a broken economy.

A major buyer of Iranian oil.

Iranian oil.

Which I understand they've been they've been shipping for some time with

mystery about the winking at that shipment of Iranian oil to China. Now that we're

looking at Iran driving the war in the Middle East as well as

contributing drones and missile technology to Russia for its flight in the Ukraine.

And we know that China is contributing to the war in Ukraine

and we can guess that it has a working relationship with Iran. When do we say that this is the autocracy block,

that's Professor Halbrand of Johns Hopkins,

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