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Deep Background with Noah Feldman

Iran Contra: Bonus - Intermission

Deep Background with Noah Feldman

Pushkin Industries

News Commentary, Government, News

4.4848 Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

A bonus interview with journalists Martha Honey and Tony Avirgan. Honey and Avirgan tell Leon about their time reporting on the Contra war from the southern front in Costa Rica.

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0:21.5

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0:30.1

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0:40.3

Pushkin. I had all the skin was burned off my face and my left hand was all the skin was burned off and the bones were sticking out.

0:56.3

I mean, we kept saying our interest is what's the identity of the bomber and who was the paymaster?

1:01.7

That's what we want to track.

1:04.2

Hey, fiasco listeners.

1:06.0

We are now halfway through our season on the Iran-Contra scandal,

1:09.7

which feels like the perfect time to

1:11.4

take a break from our regular episodes and share something a little different.

1:15.6

It's a conversation with two reporters, Martha Honey and Tony Avergan, a husband and wife

1:21.2

team covered the Contra War in Central America. In the mid-1980s, Martha and Tony were living in and reporting from Costa Rica.

1:31.4

Costa Rica, which is located just south of Nicaragua, was a peaceful country that had abolished

1:36.7

its army and was using the money on infrastructure and education. For Martha and Tony,

1:41.9

it was an ideal place to raise their kids, but it was also a good place for a couple of reporters.

1:47.6

Although Costa Rica was nice and peaceful, there were wars going on in Nicaragua and El Salvador and Guatemala, and Costa Rica was not in those wars, but close enough that we could report on them.

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