IRA Conversion Strategies and Reading Economic Signals During a Shutdown
NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
NerdWallet Personal Finance
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🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 24 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The list of choices for retirement savings is like a menu. |
| 0:04.8 | And sometimes it's hard to decide what's going to work best for you. |
| 0:09.2 | So today we're going to look at Roth IRAs versus traditional IRAs as savings vehicles. |
| 0:20.5 | Welcome to NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast, where you send us your money questions, |
| 0:24.8 | and we answer them with the help of our genius nerds. |
| 0:28.3 | I'm Elizabeth Ayola. |
| 0:30.5 | Later this episode, we'll be discussing traditional IRAs versus Roth IRAs and how to know what's best for your situation. |
| 0:39.5 | But first up, we have our weekly Money news roundup where we break down the latest in the world of finance to help you be |
| 0:44.0 | smarter with your money. Now, since the government shut down on October 1st, we've had almost no |
| 0:49.6 | federal economic data, which means we have to rely on private sector data to get a picture of how |
| 0:55.2 | the economy is actually doing. |
| 0:57.2 | Today, as the shutdown may be ending, nerd wallet economist Elizabeth Renter is here, |
| 1:02.4 | and she's going to talk about what some of that data, including some non-traditional indicators, |
| 1:07.9 | signal about where the economy is today. |
| 1:10.4 | Hey, Elizabeth, fellow Elizabeth, welcome |
| 1:12.4 | back to smart money. Hey, thanks, Elizabeth. It's great to be back. Let's start with recent labor |
| 1:18.2 | data. Last week, there was a report from ADP, a management services company, and I want you to |
| 1:24.4 | tell us about some of the findings of that report. The ADP employment report showed a gain of 42,000 jobs in October, which is good, but I'd |
| 1:33.0 | stop short of calling it strong. |
| 1:35.1 | The reason being, these gains were pretty narrow, meaning they were concentrated across |
| 1:39.1 | just a few industries, primarily health care, education, and trade and transportation. It's important when we talk about |
| 1:46.4 | any economic data set, including this alternate labor market data, that we understand the |
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