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iOS 26 beta 4 changes, AppleCare One, and an M5 iPad Pro surprise

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🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Benjamin and Chance talk about all the changes in iOS 26 beta 4, the strangely good deal that is the new AppleCare One package, and a surprising rumored detail about the upcoming M5 iPad Pro. 

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Chance Miller

Benjamin Mayo

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0:00.0

Mayo, at this point, I don't even know how much energy I have left to argue with you about liquid glass.

0:06.7

But I will just say iOS 26 beta 4 comes a lot closer to falling on my side of the argument than your side of the argument.

0:16.2

It basically reverts to beta 2 with some minor tweaks, I would say, in terms of how it treats the materials.

0:22.1

So if you go around iOS 26 beta 4, which came out on Tuesday, you'll see a lot of the

0:29.0

transparency is back, specifically in like the navigation bars. The go-to example for everybody,

0:34.4

including me, is the music app. Yep. Just because there's so much color behind the navigation bar as you scroll through your library,

0:42.1

as you scroll through the browse tab, it's a good example of seeing how the liquid nature

0:48.0

of that transparent navigation bar reflects and refracts the content behind it.

0:52.1

Yeah, the music app is a good example because it has a relatively big canvas for the liquor glass elements

0:58.0

because you have the tab bar and you have the accessory view of the now playing card above it, right?

1:03.0

And you have background content, which is a mixture of images, as in the album art, and titles and text in terms of playlists or the category headings.

1:11.9

So you get a very good summary of like how does this actually fare in just site inside of Just One application, which is the music app, which is also, you know, one of Apple's most important apps.

1:21.5

So it seems like a good benchmark to look at because you can't just excuse it as oh you know they'll get to this calculator app in beta

1:28.0

seven like the music app is clearly at the forefront it's in all the marketing images it's a good

1:32.2

benchmark for where it's sitting and i would completely agree with beta four is whatever beta

1:39.8

whatever diversion they went with beta three they've just forgotten about it again i don't

1:43.8

that's that's i don't want to have a big argument about, you know, we had that in the last time. For the beta two, beta three discussion, right, in terms of where it should land. And because they basically reverted to beta two, you can basically have that same argument again in terms of what's better or where it should be. What's interesting is that why did they do the beta three

2:02.6

thing? Right. I mean, I see you a picture of beta two, beta three and beta four all next to each other.

2:09.6

Beta three looks like such an outlier. It looks like it was a mistake or something. It's so different

2:14.7

than beta two and beta four. And I think if you put beta 2 and

2:18.4

beta 4 next to each other, I couldn't tell you which is which, right? They're so, so, so similar.

2:24.0

Yeah, the only thing you can really pick out is like not the material, it's not the material

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