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🗓️ 17 November 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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In Episode 449 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Chase Taylor, head of research at Bulwark Capital Management and founder of Pinecone Macro Research about investment opportunities around the buildout of the new "electric stack" and the AI CapEx Boom that relies on them.
Chase and Demetri spend the first hour of this episode exploring his methodology, how he extracts signals from noise, and why a multidisciplinary approach to investing is especially important during periods of disruptive sociopolitical and technological change like the kind we are experiencing today. They then apply these ideas to two important technological trends underway in the global economy: (1) the transformation of the so-called "electric stack" or electro-industrial stack and (2) the AI CapEx Boom that relies on it.
They begin with a deep-dive exploration of the dramatic cost declines happening across the entire electric stack, beginning with the addition of new sources of energy, advancements in battery technology for storage, the use of magnets and motors that turn electricity into mechanical motion, power electronics that shape it into the precise force needed by today's technologies, and the embedded compute that orchestrates and decides how and when to put that force into action.
They discuss the sources of China's dominance in this industry, the horizontal complementarities in its manufacturing ecosystems, the advantages of vertical integration, and what America and Europe need to do in order to remain competitive in this new industrial ecosystem.
The second hour is devoted to exploring the implications for investors of the current AI CapEx boom, how the USD might behave in a growth slowdown scenario post-Liberation Day, and what the Trump administration's military and covert action threats against Maduro's regime in Venezuela can tell us about his foreign policy and whether we are returning to a more colonial phase of domination by the American empire over the Western hemisphere.
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Episode Recorded on 11/10/2025
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| 0:00.0 | What's up, everybody? My name is Dimitri Gaffinus, and you're listening to Hidden Forces, |
| 0:06.2 | a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens, the challenge consensus |
| 0:13.0 | narratives, and learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world. |
| 0:19.0 | My guest in this episode of Hidden Forces is Chase Taylor, |
| 0:22.2 | head of research at Bulwark Capital Management and the founder of Pine Cone macro |
| 0:26.9 | research, where he publishes deep dive macro analyses informed by his relentless curiosity |
| 0:32.7 | and commitment to systems-level thinking and strategic foresight. Chase and I spend the first hour of |
| 0:38.6 | this episode exploring his methodology, how he extracts signal from noise, and why a multidisciplinary |
| 0:44.5 | approach to investing is especially important during periods of disruptive social-political |
| 0:49.9 | and technological change like the kind we are experiencing today. We then apply these ideas to two important technological transformations |
| 0:58.0 | underway in the global economy. |
| 1:01.0 | The first is the transformation of the energy system, |
| 1:04.0 | and the dramatic cost declines we are seeing across the so-called electric stack. |
| 1:08.0 | This begins with the addition of new sources of energy to the electric grid, |
| 1:12.1 | advancements in battery technology for its storage, the use of magnets and motors that |
| 1:16.9 | turn that electricity into mechanical motion, power electronics that shape it into the precise |
| 1:22.0 | force needed for today's technologies, and the embedded compute that orchestrates and decides |
| 1:27.3 | how and when to put that |
| 1:29.2 | force into action. We discussed the sources of China's dominance in this industry, the horizontal |
| 1:34.9 | complementarities in its manufacturing ecosystems, the advantages of vertical integration, and what |
| 1:40.7 | America and Europe need to do in order to remain competitive in this new industrial ecosystem. |
| 1:46.7 | The second hour is devoted to exploring the implications for investors of the current AI CAPEX boom, |
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