The idea that you can take an office space, maybe in the suburbs, that isn't going to be

really appealing in this post-pandemic world, but can I turn part of it into maybe a warehouse

space, a data center, a light industrial, light manufacturing space, maybe to do some

prototyping, to do some R&D, and then build an office component that's attached to it,

I think that's really appealing.

I'm Chris Hill and that's Matt Argusinger, head of the Montefulls real estate investing

services.

We're taking a closer look at space and how it's transforming.

Shopping malls, skyscrapers, and suburban office parks were rocked by COVID, so maybe

they can help fill the need for data centers, multi-family housing, and warehouses.

Today, Deedra Woolard and Matt Argusinger discuss commercial real estate trends to watch,

why it's not that easy to transform an office building into an apartment building, and

a few ideas for investors who like dividends.

There are so many question marks about the future of central business districts and about

suburbs, so I want to talk to you because you've recently went through a journey as an

investor, you were part of a large planned office conversion in Atlanta in a central business

district, and it didn't quite go as planned, so let's talk about it.

All right, well, Deedra, I'm going to take you back to the summer of 2019, and I know

in COVID years, that seems like ancient history.

So, all the way back to the summer of 2019, I'm in Atlanta with Greg Marks, who at the

time was the head of operations for our Million Acres service, and we were looking at

a beautiful mid-century office building in Atlanta.

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