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Elon's Spies | Tortoise Investigates

Introducing...The Wargame

Elon's Spies | Tortoise Investigates

The Observer

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.65.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary

Introducing...The Wargame


A bunker. A scenario. A group of former senior ministers, military chiefs and other experts. Russia knows our weaknesses – but do you?


Sky News' security and defence editor Deborah Haynes presents The Wargame. From Sky News and Tortoise, it imagines how a Russian attack on the UK could play out... and how military chiefs and politicians might try to defend the country.


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0:00.0

The Observer.

0:08.3

Hi, this is Chloe from The Observer.

0:11.1

I want to tell you about a new podcast that my colleagues have been working on with Sky News.

0:16.8

It's called The War Game.

0:19.1

It's a unique audio experience that simulates what could happen

0:24.1

if the UK was ever attacked by a foreign power.

0:28.4

Here Sky News' defence editor, Deborah Haynes, to tell you more about it.

0:34.2

The world feels pretty dangerous.

0:36.9

We have recently uncovered a staggeringly reckless campaign The world feels pretty dangerous.

0:43.9

We have recently uncovered a staggeringly reckless campaign of Russian sabotage in Europe.

0:47.2

Danger is moving towards us at full speed.

0:50.2

We should expect to see continued acts of aggression here at home.

0:58.1

So what would happen if Britain's defences were put to the test? I asked an Oxford academic for help. If we could simulate some kind of threat unfolding, we could create a war game

1:05.0

where we could test ourselves and bring that to the public. We chose a team to play the British government.

1:13.3

We put people who had experience of doing this for real, back in the hot seat.

1:16.9

General Sir Richard Barons, I commanded Joint Forces Command, 2013 to 2016.

1:22.0

Mark Sederwell, a national security advisor 2017 to 20.

1:25.0

Helena Kennedy, I'm a practitioner barrister.

1:28.5

And some of our former politicians.

1:30.9

Amber Rudd.

1:31.8

Jack Straw.

1:32.5

James C.P.

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