I don't think I've ever done this alone but hello lady to myself you listen to

vibe jack just Sam here today for your introduction to the episode but I'll be quick and we'll just

get to it. We got a special episode for y'all in the feed. This one right here is a record

friend role model

a fellow podcaster Tracy Thomas.

We spoke for her podcast, The Stacks.

The Stacks is this amazing books podcast that Tracy has run for years. It's

phenomenal. She interviews every author you'd ever want to hear from. She hosts

fun book clubs with her listeners and she's just all around a

great person and a good friend. This summer, this August, I am reading along with the Stax

community a book called You Made a Fool of Death

with your beauty. It's a romance novel, it's spicy, it's seductive, it's sultry. I talk about getting ready to read this book with

Tracy in the show, but also in this episode I talk to Tracy about my philosophy on books

and reading and all that kind of fun stuff.

We talk journalism and objectivity.

There's a super fun kiki.

Listeners, I think you will enjoy this episode.

The episode is called,

We're giving him drugs from me and Tracy to you.

Here's the two of us on her podcast called The Stacks. Welcome to the stats, a podcast about books and the people who read them. I'm your host

Tracy Thomas and today I am joined

by Sam Sanders. Journalists and host of Volcher's flagship pop culture podcast, Into It. Sam also co-hosts The News and Culture Pod Vibe Check along with Saeed Jones and Zach Stafford.

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