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Introducing: No Small Endeavor: Joy Harjo on Poetry and Pursuit of the Common Good

Good Life Project

Jonathan Fields / Acast

Education, How To, Self-improvement, Business, Health & Fitness

4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Sharing an episode of the No Small Endeavor podcast.


These days, our culture is marked by political unrest, polarization and anxiety. Beauty and art feel like a luxury, or even a distraction.


In a special series, No Small Endeavor is asking: What if art, beauty, and poetry are exactly what we need to face the crisis at hand? Can poetry help us protest, pray, lament, and even hope? Host Lee C. Camp talks to poets like Haleh Liza Gafori, a poet, musician, and acclaimed translator of the Persian poet Rumi; and Pádraig Ó Tuama, poet, theologian, and host of Poetry Unbound. Their conversations evoke thoughtfulness about how to fight for beauty in the current culture, and how to make it through the fires of our time together.


In this episode, Lee talks to Joy Harjo, a musician, author, and three-term U.S. Poet Laureate. Camp and Harjo explore how poetry can act as a form of justice, a practice of self-development, and a tiny experiment in healing.


You can listen to No Small Endeavor at https://link.mgln.ai/goodlifeproject


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0:00.0

Hey there, I am sharing something special with you this week. It's an episode of No Small

0:05.7

Endeavor, a podcast that explores hope in challenging times. So these days, our culture is marked by

0:12.2

political unrest, polarization, and anxiety. Beauty and art feel like a luxury or even a distraction.

0:17.9

In a special series, no small endeavor is asking,

0:21.2

what if art, beauty, and poetry are exactly what we need to face the crisis at hand?

0:26.0

Can poetry help us, protest, pray, lament, and even hope?

0:30.0

Host Lisi Camp talks to poets like Hale Liza Gafori, a poet musician and acclaimed translator

0:35.9

of the Persian poet Rumi, and Padra Gautuma,

0:38.8

poet theologian and host of poetry on bound. Their conversations evoke thoughtfulness

0:43.7

about how to fight for beauty in the current climate and how to make it through the fires of

0:48.2

our times together. In this episode, Lee talks to Joy Harjo, a musician, author, and three-term U.S. Poet Laureate. Camp and Harjo really explore how poetry can act as a form of justice, a practice of self-development, and a tiny experiment in healing. The episode asks what it means to live a good life in an age of crisis, climate change, technological upheaval, and cultural fracture. Poetry, Harjo reminds us,

1:12.6

is a way of being human, an act of authentic human flourishing, even in the hardest times.

1:18.0

Okay, here comes the episode. You can listen to this series and more on No Small Endeavor,

1:22.8

wherever you get podcasts.

1:26.6

I'm Lee C. Camp, and this is No no small endeavor, exploring what it means to live a good life.

1:35.1

Poetry, it's ceremonial language that taps on your heart and says, okay, let's pay attention here.

1:44.5

That's three-term U.S. Poet Laureate Joy Harjo on this, the first in our three-part poetry

1:50.3

series.

1:51.4

So my work came about out of a need for healing.

1:55.1

I mean, justice is part of that.

1:57.2

We discussed the native poets who inspired her, the importance of history and place in her writing and her new book, Girl Warrior.

2:04.6

That's some of the most subtle kindness, perhaps, is to look at somebody and see them.

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