Hi I'm Kevin Townsend. I help produce podcasts here at The Atlantic. It's been a while since the most recent episode of The Atlantic interview and we wanted to let you know about some of our other shows.

With the coronavirus affecting everything these days, we launched a new daily show called Social Distance, all about life in a pandemic.

Most people I've spoken to who think about public health and preparedness talk about this concept of cycles of panic and neglect.

So guess which one we're in now?

That sounds a lot like my day to day.

Right, right, right. Yes. It's hosted by James Hamblin, a staff writer here and an actual doctor.

We have flattened the curve, but it is not flat enough.

And his friend, Executive producer Catherine Wells.

Okay, we have to keep six feet from each other.

This is how it goes.

Listeners to the Atlantic interview might want to start with episode 7,

when it's illegal to leave home.

Jeffrey Goldberg joins the show to talk about how societies faced with this new threat make choices

between safety and liberty.

Fear of death will get us to do almost anything, don't you think?

I mean, this is where the period, this is where this period is interesting and somewhat analogous

to the post 9-11 period, right?

We agreed to a level of governmental intrusion in our lives that before

9-11 we wouldn't have agreed to because we were scared. Every day on social

distance, Jim and Catherine try to answer the questions big and small that now

seem to

dominate our lives. To subscribe, just search for social distance

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