Introducing, 'My First Hack'

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🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Every pro hacker started somewhere. In this interview series, hackers and security researchers tell their origin stories.

For the first episode, we spoke to former government hacker Emily Crose, who now works for a critical infrastructure security startup. Here's Emily's first hack, in her own words."

"My first hack happened in high school when I was playing around with Back Orifice 2000 or BO2K, the infamous remote access trojan made by the hacking group Cult of The Dead Cow. My first victim was, well, myself. This was an accidental self infection, that's the technical term" Crose said.

"I infected my own computer with BO2K, and it took me a while to figure out what had happened, but when I did figure it out, I got a chance to learn the software. It's not a thing that people will talk about certainly, but even professional developers these days just run the wrong thing in the wrong place and, oops, oopsie, doopsie," she said.

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0:00.0	I also had like a little group of friends, the people I looked up to who had always talked
0:07.1	about doing things with computers.
0:10.1	I don't know that they ever described themselves as like quote unquote hackers, but
0:14.0	there were people who I kind of looked up to his peers.
0:19.1	You know, Offcrack also came out in the early 2000s,
0:21.6	and so that was kind of another representation of this tool that you could download,
0:26.6	and it would do this really interesting security circumvention for you.
0:33.6	Sub-Cyberspace, this is Lorenzo Franceschiicchirai, and today we have a very special episode
0:41.3	of cyber.
0:42.3	Every month I'm going to interview a famous or infamous hacker who tells us about the first time
0:49.3	they pawned a computer.
0:51.3	Our first guest is the very bad ass Emily Crows, who used to work at the Pentagon
0:56.0	and the NSA. She now works for a company that protects critical infrastructure and promises
1:01.4	to safeguard civilization. Welcome to my first hack. Thank you, Emily, for being here.
1:14.3	I think it's your first time on the show.
1:17.0	Hard not to have been on the show before when it's the first one of the show.
1:22.3	It's the first for everyone here involved.
1:24.7	So that's great.
1:26.2	So yeah, tell us a bit about what was your first hack.
1:30.7	Oh, first hack. Okay. So first hack, so I've been asked a question like this before a few times.
1:37.8	And the answer, you always expect to have like a really cool answer for this one. Like, oh, you know, I got into some super secure database or something.
1:48.0	It's not that.
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