My feeling is the day you become an expert in any subject, any industry, you become useless,

or I would say incrementalist in that industry.

That means the best you can be is 10% better than anyone else in the industry,

but you'll never be 10 times better. To be 10 times better, you have to challenge the foundation

of everything that expert has taken for granted.

Neveen Jane has built his career by doing exactly that, challenging assumptions, rethinking industries, and refusing to settle for incremental progress.

A serial entrepreneur and philanthropist, Navine's journey began with humble beginnings in India, led him to a career at Microsoft and ultimately to taking the leap to found InfoSpace and later Viome, an AI-driven health platform,

focused on preventing chronic disease.

Today, we'll hear how he landed on his feet after leaving InfoSpace, why he believes entrepreneurs

should hate risk, and how he measures success, not just in wealth, but in impact.

I'm Farnish Tarabi, and this is Leading by Example, Executives Making an Impact.

Naveen, Jane, welcome to leading by example.

It's a pleasure to have you on the show.

Farnush, what an honor and a pleasure to be speaking with you.

I have so many questions for you.

I love to start at the beginning of beginnings, going back to with you. I have so many questions for you. I love to start at the beginning of

beginnings, going back to before you stepped on U.S. soil, when you were just a boy living in India,

I was reading, I think it was in fortune, you were talking about your father's influence on you.

One big memory is how your father, who was a worker for the Indian government,

he refused to take bribes, which I guess was an unusual thing. And as a result, your family

moved around a lot and you attended schools that were not so great. So I just want to go to that moment in your life and

understand what you were witnessing, how it was making sense to you, and the influence that

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