Introducing: “In The Dark”

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4.2 • 6.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2023

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

“In The Dark,” the acclaimed investigative podcast from American Public Media, is joining The New Yorker and Condé Nast Entertainment. In its first two seasons, “In The Dark,” hosted by the reporter Madeleine Baran, has taken a close look at the criminal-justice system in America. The first season examined the abduction and murder, in 1989, of eleven-year-old Jacob Wetterling, and exposed devastating failures on the part of law enforcement. The second season focussed on Curtis Flowers, a Black man from Winona, Mississippi, who was tried six times for the same crime. When the show’s reporters began looking into the case, Flowers was on death row. After their reporting, the Supreme Court reversed Flowers’s conviction. Today, he is a free man. A third season of “In The Dark,” which will be the show’s most ambitious one yet, is on its way. David Remnick recently sat down with Baran and the show’s managing producer, Samara Freemark, to talk about the remarkable first two seasons of the show, and what to expect in the future. To listen to the entirety of the “In The Dark” catalogue, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

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0:00.0	Hi, this is David Remnick, and I have some really exciting news I'd like to share with you.
0:08.9	The New Yorker and Kanye Nast have acquired In the Dark, an investigative podcast that was created
0:14.6	by American Public Media. In The Dark is known for its deeply researched audio journalism, and it's received just an
0:23.0	enormous amount of awards. Their first season examined the horrific unsolved abduction and murder
0:28.4	in 1989 of the 11-year-old Jacob Wetterling and exposed devastating failures on the part of law
0:35.6	enforcement. The second season focused on the
0:38.8	criminally unjust prosecution of Curtis Flowers, a black man who was tried six times for the same
0:45.3	crime and who, when in the dark, started their reporting, was on death row at Mississippi's
0:51.2	parchment prison. And now, thanks to their work, Curtis Flowers is a free man.
0:57.2	In the Dark is both meticulously crafted and compelling listening, and I'm a huge fan. Of course,
1:03.7	this also means that a third season of the show is on the way, and I recently sat down with
1:08.1	in the dark's host, Madeline Barron, and managing producer Samara Freemark.
1:13.4	Madeline Samara, hi and welcome.
1:15.8	Hello, thanks so much for having us.
1:17.3	It's a real pleasure.
1:17.9	It's so good to talk to you.
1:19.2	It's a great pleasure.
1:20.3	I'm curious how both of you came to journalism in the first place and how in the dark really came about.
1:27.6	I come from audio documentary. Madeline's an investigative reporter, and we met when we
1:32.7	joined an investigations and documentary unit at American Public Media together.
1:37.3	And I should say that from the moment we started working in the same team, I was really
1:40.9	scheming to meet Madeline because she had just come off of this really
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