Hey behind the Velvet Rope listeners, I'm dropping in with something I know you're going to love.

You know Jesse Tyler Ferguson, right? Modern Families Mitch, hello, Broadway star, all around

delightful human being. Well, let me tell you, Jesse's got an amazing podcast called Dinner's on

Me, where he takes celebrity guests out for dinner at some of the best

restaurants in Los Angeles and New York City. It's like being a fly on the wall for the most

fun and fascinating conversations. Conversations, juicy, fun, and most important, always filled

with surprises. And let's be honest, who wouldn't want to listen in on dinner with Lisa Kudrow?

Oh my God, I loved Friends. That's right. Jesse recently sat down with none other than Friends legend

Lisa Kudrow and they got into something fascinating, how Lisa played Ursula, the quirky waitress

from Mad About You, even before she landed the role of Phoebe on Friends.

Do you guys know that?

When Friends came along, NBC didn't want to lose Lisa's magic on Mad About You, so they made

Phoebe and Ursula twin sisters to connect the two shows.

How cool is that?

It's such an amazing bit of TV history, and of course, only someone like Lisa could pull it off.

But don't take my word for it. I hope you enjoyed this morsel as much as I do.

Now, I know that, okay, this is what I've always been fascinated.

It's a little bit of like the chicken or the egg situation.

So you played on Matt about you.

Yeah.

Ursula.

Right.

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