Hey, it's Scott and Forrest, and we know if you love our show, you're probably looking for something else to listen to as well.

And we've got just a thing. It is a brand new podcast from Crime House called Conspiracy Theory's Cults and Crimes.

Oh, that is up our alley here. You know, each week, Vanessa Richardson will uncover the true stories behind the world's most shocking crimes, deadly ideologies, and

secret plots, from mass suicides and political assassinations to secret government experiments

and UFO cults.

UFO cults right up our alley.

That's what I was saying is, yeah, it's got everything that we love, but maybe too afraid to dive into, but she's not.

Yeah, there you go. So if you love mystery of madness and, as Forrest said, diving deep into the

world's most unbelievable true stories, you're not going to want to miss this show.

Yeah, and we have a clip here from the first episode about the Heaven's Gate cult,

which is out now. If you like what you hear, don't forget to follow

conspiracy theories, cults, and crimes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you

listen. Sometimes the most shocking stories have the most ordinary beginnings. That was certainly

the case for Heaven's Gate and its leader,

Marshall Applewhite. Born in 1932, in the small city of Spur, Texas, Marshall had a typical

all-American upbringing, and religion was a very important part of his childhood. His father was a well-known

Presbyterian minister in the area,

and he encouraged Marshall to live a life of virtue, one that his family and God would be proud of.

Marshall was eager to please. Growing up, he attended church regularly and wanted to become a

minister just like his father. But while Marshall was a

staunch Christian, he was also interested in looking elsewhere for the answers to life's

biggest questions. So when it was time for him to go to college in the late 1940s or early 50s,

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