Welcome to part two of our conversation with Christina Westervelt. You had mentioned earlier, because in this field, especially when it comes to seeing darker things, or people claiming, you know, there's something dark going on here, then a lot of times religion of some shape or form enters into the picture and there's cleansing of some sort that often people try to do.

How have you meshed the two together, if at all, through your belief that, you know,

there isn't the heaven, hell, but there seems to be things going on out here in those sort of

situations? You know... there seems to be things going on out here in those sort of situations.

You know, I don't, I'm not, I'm not a religious person.

I went to Catholic school from pre-Pree K to East Creek and it like sucked the religion

out of me.

I did it with, I did the Lutheran version, so I get you. Oh, man, it just really, it just sucked it out of me. I did it with, I did the Lutheran version, so I get you.

Oh, man, it just really, it just sucked it out of me.

I just can't.

But, I mean, there's been situations where we've walked into a place and they've felt

heavy, you know, and just off.

But I just feel like it kind of, this is like a tough subject for me because I get so

angry.

Because like as an investigator, we don't, or any investigator, we don't know, you know.

So there's these residential cases, right?

And these people might just have, you know, a mischievous spirit or, you know, this old guy died at their house that was like super grumpy and cranky and like just a miserable person.

And he passed away and, you know, that's the personality of his ghost as well, you know.

Yeah.

And you have these investigators doing these residential cases and they're going in telling

these people those demons and they don't freaking know that there's no proof and they're going in and

scaring the living shit out of these people and it really like irritates me because you don't know

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