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Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

Into the Superspectrum: Following John Keel's Trojan Horse

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

SpectreVision Radio

Social Sciences, Science, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.5 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Kelly and Jay revisit the groundbreaking work of John Keel, one of the most influential and controversial figures in UFO history. Known for Operation Trojan Horse and The Mothman Prophecies, Keel pushed beyond the limits of conventional ufology to propose ideas that remain provocative more than 50 years later. They explore both the human story of Keel—the journalist, traveler, and relentless investigator—and the radical frameworks he left behind for making sense of high strangeness. Along the way, Kelly and Jay connect Keel’s legacy to today’s debates, government narratives, and their own upcoming fieldwork. Highlights include: Keel’s unique approach: using news clipping services and personal witness interviews to identify patterns across thousands of reports. His skepticism toward the extraterrestrial hypothesis and why he suspected UFOs were closer to home than another planet. The “paraphysical hypothesis” and Keel’s concept of the super-spectrum, where UFOs and entities may be part of a hidden ecology overlapping our own. Insights into window areas—locations where high strangeness clusters—and how this connects to modern hotspots. The role of storytelling, control mechanisms, and myth-making in shaping how humanity perceives the phenomenon. Why Keel’s outsider perspective continues to challenge both researchers and experiencers today. Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio. ✨ Join the conversation and go deeper: Cosmosis Community on Patreon – ad-free episodes, monthly calls, private Discord, and more: CosmosisCommunity.com Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality – now streaming on Amazon, Apple TV, and multiple platforms: Cosmosis.Media Resources & References Operation Trojan Horse, John Keel:https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Trojan-Horse-Classic-Breakthrough/dp/1938398033/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0 Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality: https://www.cosmosis.media/ Join the Patreon: https://cosmosiscommunity.com Subscribe to Cosmosis: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479d Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow Cosmosis X: https://x.com/cosmosis_media Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.media Listen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQ Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117 Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS 05:54 John Keel's Background and Early Career 09:38 Keel's Investigative Approach and Findings 13:40 Skepticism and the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis 20:08 Patterns in UFO Sightings and Flaps 33:38 Regional UFO Flaps and Media Coverage 35:19 Contemporary Ufology and Hotspots 37:23 Patterns in UFO Sightings 40:11 The Paraphysical Hypothesis 43:37 Control Mechanisms and Technological Inspiration 59:07 Color Spectrum and UFO Phenomena 01:09:54 Field Work Inspired by John Keel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

I've got a story to tell you.

0:03.0

It might sound unbelievable, but the person who experienced it once fought the same,

0:11.0

until they saw something that changed them forever.

0:15.0

Here we dive into the paranormal, the strange and the unexplained,

0:20.0

from personal supernatural encounters to some of the most infamous unsolved mysteries and

0:26.3

history, all told in an immersive, atmospheric narrative-led style.

0:32.5

Let's hear these stories and try to figure out together what really happened.

0:38.3

The world is a very strange place.

0:41.3

Someone has to record it.

0:44.3

Because after all, everywhere has a ghost story.

0:49.3

Archived in collaboration with Spectrevision Radio.

0:52.3

Welcome to the tape library.

0:56.0

Spectre Vision Radio.

1:27.3

They both see the connection between kind of ancient, you know, fairy lore and other types of folklore and those kinds of sightings and the things that are happening today.

1:27.7

So they're both talking about something that seems to be more here than somewhere else. And also that seems

1:33.6

to have some vested interest in controlling, number one, how it's perceived by us and also perhaps

1:43.2

seeding some kind of mythology or information or belief into the

1:48.7

culture through these kinds of sightings and encounters with people.

1:52.7

I think that's really cool.

1:54.0

What I love about Keel is that valet in many ways, which is also a strength of his, is very

1:59.8

conservative in terms of what he's willing to assert.

2:04.0

Whereas Keel was much more willing and you see it kind of develop across his work, he's more willing to offer some kind of theory or framework or idea about who and what this intelligence behind this control mechanism might actually be.

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